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When are we going to get caught?

I’ve been ordering cannabis on the darkweb for more than a couple years now. It ships US to US via USPS (to a state where cannabis is currently illegal), price is half of what I could get locally, and the selection is endless. Bliss.

I’m happy with the security of the markets and I think the digital trail is pretty tough to follow. When is USPS going to get better package scanners to detect drugs? With the state of machine learning I don’t think it’d be that difficult. Maybe USPS doesn’t care? Would they notify LE?

/u/pelicanegg

I think it's going to come down to the fed's pressuring the mail service's to install better detection techniques. Either way, the mail services will fight this to the hilt; For 2 reasons i see predominantly.

The first is the cost of these machines to the company.
The second would be adding time to overall time scale of delivering the mail, something the mail companies do not have. Also, more man power to take the packs out of circulation, screen them, notify relevant authorities etc.

I can't see it happening at the will of the mail services, only when the time come's that the feds lean on them to play a bigger part in detection. I'm sure the pressuring is well and truely on, and has been for a few years now. There's probably a back an forth going on atm with the higher ups on both side's, trying to implement and not implement better screening machines.

I guess time will tell. I guess as you mention, with the advent of machine learning evolving exponentially, they're probably waiting for a time when they can implement it, with using as little man power as possible.

/u/sigg

In addition to the cost of the machines, no machine will detect drugs perfectly. All kinds of stuff is sent through the mail that could falsely be detected as drugs. Improving the stealth to not be detected as drugs shouldn't be difficult either.

/u/Vendy_McVendfaceGET OFF MY LAWN!!

>Most western countries border's have far more scrutiny and better detection rates with X-Ray machines. Even the best stealth, still gets found. Unless there is some form of barrier that can be implemented that shields from X-Ray beams

Manufactureres in China are standing by waiting for Western customers to start ordering lead-lined bags, wholesale. They already exist.

/u/SmartyPants

One of my first jobs was running parcels through an x-ray machine in a government post room. Lead or shielding of any sort in the machine viewfinder, wires poking through the outer skin of the package, and grease stains are the three biggest red flags in my experience. The best policy for shipping is mixing similar density organic material, if you're shipping organic matter. For anything else it's better to use smart camoflage than to use an obvious vacuum sealed envelope that rattles when you shake it. Always use like for like, as long as you're always careful, never rush, and vary your packages external dimensions, labeling, and return addresses - if you don't already. Then if the worst comes to the worst and a parcel is examined and found to be contraband, at least they can't find a dozen other of your packages in transit by size or other distinctive identifiers.

Edit: I did try to be mindful of the rules in writing this post. I've tried to keep it both vague, while still being of use in promoting lateral thinking as goes packaging, and not running a conveyor belt operation that will leave you far more open to LE enumeration, or indeed with the volume of trade rising, eventual criminal enumeration of your chosen enterprise, scanning physically or pattern matching electronically, as LE will eventually have to do. Particularly in view of first class domestic being protected mail, I can't see judges ruling to abolish the protection in law it currently receives, especially the way they ruled over the FBI's multi-thousand Tor user hack a while back.

/u/CannibalWarlord

What is the most cost effective and stealthiest way to ship pills via priority mail?

/u/policecameraaction

How do you hide a leaf?
In a forest

Personally I would hide pills within pills

Create a phony bottle of placebo pills (herbal remedy) all with white casing, and then the real ones can be in red casing :)

/u/zBVabuPewZpX

Not if you add an address sticker that would suggest you're a licensed company shipping these.

/u/AvocadoHead

From my understanding, you aren't breaking any rules so you shouldn't worry. If I am not mistaken, the rule is to not describe the stealth specific vendors use so they can't be profiled. Talking about stealth in general, can help the community learn so that our vendors can improve and people looking to be vendors can learn a little about stealth. This is how vendors learn after all, it's always been on places like reddit, forums, etc. or by placing orders from other vendors or learning from a friend. Coming up with ideas. So really you shouldn't have anything to worry about talking about this if you're not naming vendors and exposing their stealth. I don't see a problem!

/u/fucksalt

How do you know so much about all this?

/u/PeakyBlinder

This...this...this...

/u/[deleted]

Knock...Knock....Mother Fucker.....Bahahahahahaaaaaaa!!!!!!

/u/dave24

the dnms will always find away. its a cat and mouse chase that will never end.

/u/zozo

Yeah, fucking Tom and Jerry.

/u/MJA20WithA3

Jerry was always fucking up Tom boy though.

/u/bobbyelvis

probably until like 2025-2030 or something like that i dont know lol

really until there is a way to almost 100% of the time determine something is a drug or not automatically through a machine when being shipped, i dont think we will have any major problems concerning usps or the mail. like others said though, other items are shipped through the mail that are perfectly legal that may resemble drugs when scanned or looked at by computers. Such as herbs, spices, medical supplies etc.

/u/BonesKoopa

Yup, back in the day I had a buddy send me 1oz, used just a ziplock bag and one of them letters that are not even 6"x4".
Shit was bulging reaking, made it, no questions asked.
Shit back then lol.

/u/Mandy

For real though..

I have been ordering drugs off the dark interwebs for around 5 years now including MDMA from the NL and coke from a vendor I'm pretty sure got busted because about a year ago I got a call from the DEA about case # blah blah blah that I never returned and never got a call bak... and I'm not really trippin on it.

/u/larrylarkings

What detail did they tell you about the 'case'?

/u/forlol_notserious

I'm still waiting on you to call us back.

/u/Genghis_the_xanlord

Anything is possible, I wouldn't be surprised.

/u/Xipherr

Lot's of different types of medicine and pills get sent through the mail legally, it would also be hard to differentiate them from illegal items quickly.

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